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Thanx for the fav. I can sympathize with some of your comments. I, too, have a hard time appreciating art that doesn't display good, or at least competent, draftsmanship, at least in art that needs to display competent draftsmanship. Things like abstract or outsider art, etc. fall outside of this. Also, I know how hard it can be to find teachers that will give you the kind of nuts and bolts technical info you want and need. I had a hard time getting this even at a fucking art school, and I had to teach myself a lot of the technical stuff by reading books and trial and error. I agree with you that this whole "nothing is good or bad in art" attitude is bullshit. You don't want to be rigid and you want to keep an open mind to different approaches to art-making, and I do, but at the same time, there have to be some standards of quality, regardless of the type of art you're making. And I also want to say to you that learning to draw is a long, slow process, so if you really want to do it, just get started. Copy things, or even trace them, read books on how to draw. get a sketchbook and draw in it as much as possible. Don't worry about how shitty it might look at first--nobody has to see it. Eventually, you'll get to where you want to be.
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David Aronson:The Alchemical Wedding
"Doing the wrong things for the right reasons..." [link]
Wow thanks for the advice and agreeing with me and stuff. People usually think I am just a bitter asshole when I complain about this stuff. But I really do care about art so shouldn't I have strong opinions?
I can't give up on drawing, I just want it so much. I've been working on it as hard as I can for like 6 years and made no progress whatsoever during that time so I'm very discouraged. So...
Well thanks again for taking the time to communicate with me. Especially since you're a minor-art-celebrity, having done that cover for SFU and stuff.
No problem. I have one more piece of advice for you. Get ahold of the book Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain by Betty Edwards. Most libraries have a copy. I used to teach an adult beginner's drawing class and I based the class on the exercises in that book. They really work! I never had a student who didn't make progress. The book is about learning to 'see' like an artist, in other words making the perceptual shifts needed to translate what you're seeing into shapes, lines, patterns etc. Once the shift is made, it's just a matter of practice.
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David Aronson:The Alchemical Wedding
"Doing the wrong things for the right reasons..." [link]
I could'nt help but notice you were refering to me in your blog, claiming I "can't draw", "can't get a job" and "any idea's I come up with took 30 seconds and working in comics was a snap decision".
Given it was posted not long after my reply on DW and you got banned for being a martyr.
First off: fuck you, I work 40+ hours a week and when I'm not working, I get PAID to draw for all sorts of people so what do I care whether I've made it or not, I get paid to draw and thats all that matters to me.
I'll have you know that in the 22 years you've been crying like a bitch hoping someone someone will notice and have sympathy, I've been learning to draw and acheiving more than you could ever hope to by whinging.
So you think my drawings suck, least I had the balls to post some on the internet, wheras you will procrastinate and hope everyone feels sorry for you.
Here's the cold hard truth: nobody cares you're depressed if you act like a dick and have no intention of pulling out of this depressed state.
I've been depressed, I mean who hasn't at some point, but it doesn't seem you're listening to anyones advice and you just want their sympathy.
Well welcome to the real world, there are two options: end the whining and kill yourself, or EARN their sympathy, make the effort of at least trying to draw and TRY to stop the depression.
If you don't try, nobody will care.
Uh..I don't remember who you are, and that post where I make fun of artists who don't care about their craft was not aimed at anyone in particular - I've seen alot of people like that. In fact I feel I am in the minority when I think people have to do things "the right way".
You're insults-they are true. I know I am worthless, that everything bad that has happened to me has been my fault, and I don't deserve to find happiness. So what? So we can all hate me. Why get upset at my opinions knowing they are just as worthless as I am?
Ah and anyway, can't you take some criticism? Maybe there is some truth in it. Or maybe not...I don't see what the point is in getting upset about it though.
Nobody is getting upset, I asked for constructive criticism and you got all snotty.
Even if that post wasn't aimed at me, it's still hugely ignorant, since I bet most if not all people on the internet are ones you've never met let alone know well enough to trash.
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David Aronson:The Alchemical Wedding
"Doing the wrong things for the right reasons..." [link]
I can't give up on drawing, I just want it so much. I've been working on it as hard as I can for like 6 years and made no progress whatsoever during that time so I'm very discouraged. So...
Well thanks again for taking the time to communicate with me. Especially since you're a minor-art-celebrity, having done that cover for SFU and stuff.
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David Aronson:The Alchemical Wedding
"Doing the wrong things for the right reasons..." [link]
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Given it was posted not long after my reply on DW and you got banned for being a martyr.
First off: fuck you, I work 40+ hours a week and when I'm not working, I get PAID to draw for all sorts of people so what do I care whether I've made it or not, I get paid to draw and thats all that matters to me.
I'll have you know that in the 22 years you've been crying like a bitch hoping someone someone will notice and have sympathy, I've been learning to draw and acheiving more than you could ever hope to by whinging.
So you think my drawings suck, least I had the balls to post some on the internet, wheras you will procrastinate and hope everyone feels sorry for you.
Here's the cold hard truth: nobody cares you're depressed if you act like a dick and have no intention of pulling out of this depressed state.
I've been depressed, I mean who hasn't at some point, but it doesn't seem you're listening to anyones advice and you just want their sympathy.
Well welcome to the real world, there are two options: end the whining and kill yourself, or EARN their sympathy, make the effort of at least trying to draw and TRY to stop the depression.
If you don't try, nobody will care.
You're insults-they are true. I know I am worthless, that everything bad that has happened to me has been my fault, and I don't deserve to find happiness. So what? So we can all hate me. Why get upset at my opinions knowing they are just as worthless as I am?
Ah and anyway, can't you take some criticism? Maybe there is some truth in it. Or maybe not...I don't see what the point is in getting upset about it though.
now let's all poop in our pants
Even if that post wasn't aimed at me, it's still hugely ignorant, since I bet most if not all people on the internet are ones you've never met let alone know well enough to trash.